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Fresh Air

How Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Changes The World As We Know It

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🗓️ 1 March 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Journalist Anne Applebaum has been covering the war in Ukraine for The Atlantic. "I don't think that we will ever again smugly assume that borders in Europe can't be changed by force," she says. We talk about why Putin takes Ukrainian democracy as a personal and political threat — and how Stalin created a famine to destroy the Ukrainian national movement in the 1930s.

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0:00.0

This is fresh air, I'm Terry Gross.

0:02.4

In the battle between autocracy and democracy,

0:05.4

between dictatorship and freedom,

0:07.7

Ukraine is now the front line, and our front line,

0:11.4

writes my guest Ann Applebaum.

0:13.4

She's a journalist and historian

0:15.2

who has spent the past few years writing about

0:17.1

authoritarian governments focusing on

0:19.4

eastern European countries and their leaders' ties

0:22.5

to Vladimir Putin.

0:24.1

She's been writing about Russia's invasion of Ukraine

0:26.7

for the Atlantic where she's a staff writer.

0:29.0

She's also written about the history of conflicts

0:31.3

between the Kremlin and Ukraine.

0:33.4

Her book, Red Famine, is about the famine in Ukraine

0:36.6

that was created by Stalin in the early 1930s

0:39.6

in his attempt to destroy the Ukrainian national movement.

0:43.1

Nearly four million Ukrainians died.

0:45.6

Soviet secret police simultaneously carried out

0:48.5

mass arrests of Ukrainian intellectual,

0:50.8

cultural, religious, and political leaders

0:53.2

and exiled many of them to remote parts of the Soviet Union.

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