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🗓️ 18 September 2024
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0:00.0 | Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Radical Canter Podcast. I'm Kim Scott. I'm Jason Rosoff. I'm Amy Sandler. Today we are talking about something that a lot of you listeners have been going back to season one to explore. And that is ruinous empathy and praise. How can praise be ruinously empathetic? |
0:26.0 | Well, if you're new to Radical Kanderland, welcome, first of all. And second of all, |
0:30.9 | ruinous empathy is when you fail to tell someone something they need to know. So when it comes to |
0:36.9 | praise, this means you may just say something that you could say to your |
0:41.1 | dog, like, good job. |
0:43.6 | And Kim, you have said, even though we are all dog lovers on this podcast, if you can say |
0:48.8 | it to a dog, it's not really feedback. |
0:51.8 | Tell us more. |
0:53.1 | Well, you know, people, it turns out, they're, they understand |
0:57.7 | language better than dogs do. And they also, they benefit more from specific and sincere |
1:06.4 | details. And so when you're offering someone praise, you don't want it to be just a throwaway. |
1:17.1 | There was someone who I worked with at Apple, and she would ask a question of people when we |
1:24.3 | were teaching this class, managing at Apple, to ask participants in the class |
1:29.1 | to think about how much time they spent preparing to give criticism, and then to think about |
1:35.7 | how much time they spent preparing to give praise. And it turned out that people spent a lot of |
1:43.0 | time making sure they got the details right about criticism. And it turned out that people spent a lot of time making sure they got the details right about |
1:46.2 | criticism, but they didn't spend any time on praise. They just kind of gave a, you know, |
1:53.4 | oh, good job. And that wound up offering people praise either about the wrong thing or praise about something they |
2:04.8 | didn't really care about or praise about something they hadn't even worked on or even |
2:10.0 | offering them praise about something where, in fact, they had done a bad job, which really |
2:16.1 | can be very terrible. Kim, as you're talking about praise and criticism, |
2:22.4 | can you just give us a clear definition in your mind of what exactly praise is versus |
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