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🗓️ 31 August 2025
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00:00 Intro
02:22 Physics Over Nutrition
17:01 Macros vs. Fat Loss
29:50 Low Carb Diets
38:11 Unexpected Changes
41:02 Ketogenic Diet vs. Childhood Seizures
42:55 The Biggest Loser Study
1:13:35 Ultra-processed Foods
1:33:20 High Performing Athletes
1:35:27 Calories In/Out vs. CIM Model
1:52:30 Ultra-processed foods mechanisms
1:57:35 His Battle Against RFK Jr.
2:15:30 RFK Jr. Censoring Research
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| 0:30.2 | Secretary Kennedy has this Maha movement, make America healthy again, frequently targeting ultra-processed foods. |
| 0:36.2 | If I'm truly wanting to solve all those problems, |
| 0:38.7 | like I would be calling you every day to try and solve these problems. Is that happening? |
| 0:44.2 | Um, no, not at all. In our health lead, a top researcher for the National Institutes of Health |
| 0:50.1 | shocked the scientific and medical communities this week by announcing his early retirement |
| 0:53.9 | and blaming it on censorship from RFK Jr.'s administration. |
| 0:58.7 | I was really excited about this piece of research. |
| 1:00.7 | We were addressing the question about whether or not ultra-processed foods high in fat and sugar |
| 1:06.8 | can cause the same kind of changes in the brain's dopamine response as highly addictive drugs. |
| 1:12.6 | And they didn't seem to have the effect that many addictive drugs do. |
| 1:16.6 | This narrative that... |
| 1:17.6 | It's as addictive as crack. |
| 1:19.6 | That doesn't seem to be at work here. |
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