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I'm a little grumpy about the topic and I'm just going to go ahead and throw that out

there.

It's pretty thin.

Well not only is it thin but just the older I've gotten man, we're talking about reverse

psychology and I see it's used with like kids sometimes and stuff.

But then when it gets to like relationships and through professional relationships and

business, yeah.

It all feels like manipulative games and the older I've gotten the more I just have

no time for that garbage.

And I'm just like be honest, even if things don't turn out well, at least you were honest

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