We're back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour.

I'm Emily Gisinski, Culture Editor here at the Federalist.

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Today I'm joined by Katie Faust.

She is the founder of them before us.

Katie, you're also the director currently of them before us, right?

I am.

We are doing it all over here.

Apparently, oh my goodness.

So then before us is an extremely relevant group to the topic at hand.

Now, and I want to get, we've had you on, of course, before and you write for the Federalist.

So our readers are familiar with your work and with your voice.

I want to get into the organization itself a little bit and tell us what it's like,

but I'll preface this entire conversation just by saying,

I'm probably one of the many people that has not thought too deeply about

surgesy, about IVF, about some very new reproductive technologies,

until recently.

And the more I think about it, the more it does seem to be very much connected to

this idea of overcoming our humanity through technology,

which is something that we've always sort of sought to do.

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