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The LRB Podcast

How radical is Scotland?

The LRB Podcast

London Review of Books

Society & Culture

4.4581 Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2023

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Rory Scothorne joins Tom to discuss the evolution of Scottish politics over the past century or so, and how best to understand a country that’s shifted from a centre right electoral majority in the 1950s to a Labour stronghold in the 1980s, to being governed by the SNP since 2007. Is Scotland’s left-wing tradition a myth? And with the loss of Nicola Sturgeon as SNP leader, and the recent scandals hitting the party, what are the prospects for Scottish independence? Read Rory's piece in the LRB: https://lrb.me/scothornepod Sign up for the LRB's Close Readings podcast here: lrb.me/closereadings Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to the London Review of Books podcast. I'm Thomas Jones. Today I'm joined by Rory

0:17.3

Scotson, a postdoctoral fellow at the University of Sterling, who has a piece in the

0:21.3

current issue of the LRB that takes a historical look at the realignments in Scottish politics

0:26.0

over the last century or so. It's a review of politics and the people, Scotland 1945 to 79,

0:31.9

by Malcolm Petrie, which he describes as a tale of unintended consequences that challenges received

0:37.4

wisdom. Hello, Roryan. Thank you

0:39.3

very much for joining me. Hello, thanks very much for having me on. In 1968, Tonnen criticized what he

0:45.1

called the common myth of Scottish leftness, questioning the idea that Scotland was inherently a politically

0:50.5

radical country. But if it is a myth, it's a very resilient one.

0:54.8

Is there some truth behind it?

0:56.5

I would say there's a very obvious electoral truth behind it,

1:02.0

which is what tends to substantiate it in popular discourse.

1:05.3

I mean, if you challenge anyone on it,

1:07.3

they can just point to a map of Britain's political geography. And it will show

1:13.2

parties broadly on the centre-left doing significantly better in Scotland than in England. Generally

1:21.3

speaking, if you top them up as national units, Scotland votes to the left of England. And that's

1:27.4

been the case since

1:29.0

1959. Where it becomes complicated is if you break it down by comparable regions. So if you compare

1:36.5

Scotland with, for instance, parts of the north of England, there's not a huge difference

1:41.4

in electoral performance, although you still do see some interesting

1:44.6

differences if you break it down by class. So in Scotland, typically middle class people have

1:49.6

been more likely to vote for central left parties than even parts of the north of England,

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