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Pod Save the World

How Putin Dominated Trump, and Can Ukraine Survive

Pod Save the World

Crooked Media

Politics, News

4.824.7K Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2025

⏱️ 103 minutes

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Summary

Tommy & Ben sift through the week’s flurry of meetings on Ukraine, including Putin and Trump’s Alaska summit and Zelensky’s White House visit. They discuss how territory and security guarantees factor into negotiations, what Putin means by the “root causes” of the war, and how Russia won the optics game. They also talk about why a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel isn’t likely, massive anti-war protests in Israel, the Free Press’s ghoulish “reporting” on starving Gazan children, Laura Loomer’s malicious influence on medical visas for injured Palestinian kids, and the imprisonment of a 16-year-old Palestinian-American boy in Israel. Also covered: a rightward shift in Bolivia, Trump’s mobilization against cartels, and we say a fond farewell to State Department spokesperson Tammy Bruce. Then, Ben speaks with Representative Ro Khanna about his letter supporting the recognition of a Palestinian State and how to think about the future of Democratic Foreign Policy.

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1:37.0

I'm Tommy Vitor.

1:38.0

I'm Ben Rhodes.

1:38.7

It's not POTS of America, though.

1:40.0

What show is this?

1:41.0

This is what happens when you're on vacation.

1:43.2

We should leave that in. Yeah, leave it in. This is POTSave the world. This is the foreign policy show. This is the good show. This is what happens when you're on vacation. We should leave that in.

1:44.3

Yeah, leave it in.

1:44.9

This is Pate of the World.

1:45.9

This is the foreign policy show.

1:47.2

This is the good show. This is where we talk about some nerdy stuff. Yeah, we'll have a lot of fun. There's a lot of overlap this week because it's been quite a world a week. I mean, you know, sometimes it's that kind of week. sometimes Ben, so I was off last week, as you mentioned.

1:43.2

I wasn't in D.C. I flew through D.C., but I was in Eastern Maryland visiting Hannah's parents, which is lovely. It was great, and they're amazing. It was, like, very fun time to see family. But I can't believe we used to live in, like, the D.C. area in August and commute to work in suits in the metro when it was like 90 degrees

2:20.7

and 100% humidity.

2:22.7

I cannot, I mean, at the risk of sharing a little too much information, I cannot explain to

2:26.9

people the amount of sweat that was involved in getting from my house, which is now like

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