From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

I'm Elvis Mitchell. It's the Treatment.

Novelist Andy Weir gave us the science-based novel, The Martian, which was adapted into the film of the same name.

The newest movie adaptation of his work, Project Hail Mary, lived up to the expectations and became a big hit,

courtesy of my guests, directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller, who were also responsible for the Lego

movie and Cloudy with a chance of meatballs. Let's revisit that conversation from earlier this year.

In reading the book, there's so much of the book that I have forgot,

that I thought I had forgotten until I saw the movie again.

And there's this kind of sense that I want to talk to you guys both about this,

of playfulness and dread that the book has, that you're able to capture because it's basically his spoken

narration and we don't know where we are. And what you guys really get across is that kind of

sense of sort of psychological dislocation in the film. Yeah, we wanted you to wake up the way

you wake up in the novel, disoriented,

and in the first person, the novel has the benefit of having the main character,

Rylan Grace, narrate the entire story. So we had to figure out how to do that

cinematically. The other thing the book does so well is that

the book is friendly. As much as it talks about

hard things, there's something about the tone of Andy Weir's

writing that's very playful and funny. And so we

wanted the movie to kind of signal early on. Like,

you're in trouble, but the movie believes in you.

And so that was very deliberate.

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