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How Project 2025 Is Reshaping Our Country

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🗓️ 11 February 2026

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

More To The Story: During the 2024 presidential campaign, a conservative playbook emerged. Created by the Heritage Foundation, this 900-plus-page document was a roadmap written for a future conservative president. And while some Republicans tried to distance themselves from Project 2025, the authors and the concepts they wrote about have been embraced by President Donald Trump.

Our guest on More To The Story this week is journalist David A. Graham, who did a deep dive into the concepts of Project 2025 for his book, The Project: How Project 2025 Is Reshaping America. He talks with host Al Letson about what’s already been implemented—like mass deportations, the replacement of federal workers with Trump loyalists, and the elimination of DEI initiatives—and what other policies might be coming. 

Producer: Josh Sanburn | Editor: Kara McGuirk-Allison | Theme music: Fernando Arruda and Jim Briggs | Copy editor: Nikki Frick | Digital producer: Artis Curiskis | Deputy executive producer: Taki Telonidis | Executive producer: Brett Myers | Executive editor: James West | Host: Al Letson

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0:00.0

Project 2025 has become a blueprint for the Trump administration. But what's the endgame?

0:07.3

I think at the heart of all of this is they want this Christian conservative vision of society.

0:12.3

And the way that they want to achieve that is by dismantling many of the institutions of government as we know them.

0:18.1

And then using what's left and sort of reorienting it to create that Christian society that they envision.

0:24.4

On this week's more to the story, journalist David A. Graham examines how the conservative

0:28.8

playbook's influence reshape the federal government in 2025.

0:33.5

And what's coming in 26. Stay with us.

0:56.1

This is more to the story. I'm Out Letson. During the presidential election campaign of 2024,

1:03.5

a new conservative playbook emerged, Project 2025. Spearheaded by the Heritage Foundation, this 900-plus page document was a roadmap for consolidating executive power under a future

1:10.5

conservative president.

1:12.2

Democrats warned it would lead to authoritarianism. Some Republicans tried to steer clear of it.

1:17.8

Even then candidate Donald Trump claimed he didn't know anything about it. But Project

1:22.7

2025 has endured. And today, many of its ideas and policies like mass deportations, the replacement of

1:30.4

federal workers with Trump loyalists, and the elimination of DEI initiatives have been embraced

1:35.9

by the president. Today's guest is David A. Graham, a staff writer at the Atlantic who's gone deep,

1:42.0

reading and analyzing Project 2025. His book is called

1:46.3

The Project, How Project 2025 is Reshaping America. David, thank you so much for being here today.

1:54.0

Thank you for having me. So what was the impetus for writing Project 2025 and had anything

2:00.0

like this been done before?

2:02.0

There have been things like this. So, in fact, the Heritage Foundation has been doing things

2:06.5

almost every four years since 1980, when they put together a document that became really

2:12.5

important for the Reagan administration, sort of setting the government-shinking deregulatory agenda for Reagan.

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