Welcome back to the Ten Blocks podcast.

This is Brian Anderson, the editor of City Journal.

Joining me on today's show is Christopher Rufo. Chris has been on the show before. He's a senior

fellow at the Manhattan Institute, and he's a contributing editor at City Journal. To say,

his reporting on critical race theory in American schools and business has made waves is to understate things.

His work on the subject is actually having a tangible effect on the direction of the country.

We're going to talk about that work this week.

Chris, thanks very much for joining us.

It's great to be with you.

Let's start with your ongoing investigative series on woke

capital. Listeners can find it on the City Journal website. And as you've described in

this series, businesses from Walmart to CVS to Google, Raytheon, they've been hosting these

training sessions that basically cajole white

employees into apologizing for their race, and they insist that the U.S. is a fundamentally racist

country.

You know, what have been some of the most striking things you've found in the course of your

reporting on this?

Well, I mean, the most striking thing, big picture is that what you saw in universities

10 years ago that most Americans could laugh off or dismiss as a phenomenon that was

restricted to the campus has migrated through all of the elite American institutions and even into an unlikely

place to the Fortune 100 C-suite office. And a lot of the materials, even a company like Walmart,

for example, that is based in Arkansas, it's traditionally been a more conservative company,

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