How Process is Killing Progress with Ezra Klein

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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🗓️ 8 April 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Journalist and author Ezra Klein joins WITHpod to discuss ways liberalism has gone wrong, what has contributed to the feeling of so much scarcity in America, why it’s so tough to build in this era, how we might reimagine abundance for everyone and more.

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0:00.0	Hey, Wise is happening listeners.
0:02.4	Before we get into today's episode, we've got some very exciting news, something we've
0:06.0	been working on for a while.
0:07.1	We are thrilled to share.
0:08.1	Starting today, we're launching full episodes of WithPod on YouTube, meaning you can watch
0:14.4	the full video of this episode by going to MSNBC.com slash Withpod later today.
0:19.8	You can watch it on any device you have YouTube.
0:22.1	You could throw it up on your big flat screen TV, if that's the way you want to do it.
0:26.3	Apparently, this is what people are doing now with podcasts.
0:29.0	It's MSNBC.com slash withpod.
0:31.7	Be sure to let us know what you think by using the hashtag withpod or emailing us at
0:35.3	withpod at gmail.com.
0:36.8	Enjoy. If you believe people would like the fruits of liberal governance, then you have to make liberal
0:50.3	governance possible.
0:52.1	If you think they won't, well then yeah, it makes sense to be completely defensive about
0:58.0	this.
0:58.8	But I am more worried about the inability of the people who believe what I believe to change the
1:06.6	world in a way that makes people want that vision executed, then I am about the others. I think that
1:11.6	that is what marginalizes the power of the other side, that you are successful. And I think we've a little
1:18.5	bit, we give lip service to that vision of politics. But if you look at how Democrats govern
1:24.5	in states and nationally, they don't actually believe it.
1:33.3	Hello and welcome. Why's this happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.
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