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Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

How Pornhub Became The World's LARGEST Criminal Trafficking Network (with Laila Mickelwait)

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9648 Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

On this episode, Andy sits down with activist and founder of the #TraffickingHub movement, Laila Mickelwait, to expose the dark truth behind Pornhub. They discuss how the world’s largest porn site became a hub for child exploitation, rape videos, and sex trafficking, and the shocking ways it profited from criminal content.  To learn more of Laila's work, check out her book: Takedown: Inside the Fight to Shut Down Pornhub for Child Abuse, Rape, and Sex Trafficking Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original Sponsors : Firecracker Farm Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ MTNTOUGH Go to ⁠https://mtntough.com⁠ and enter code CHANGEAGENTS to receive 40% OFF - a savings of about $100 off your MTNTOUGH+ annual subscription. BetterHelp Visit betterhelp.com/Change to get 10% off your first month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Serena, who was one of the victims, she was underage.

0:03.0

She was a young teen when her abuse was uploaded to Pornhub, downloaded, uploaded millions of views, you know, sending her on a spiral of trauma.

0:13.0

She, you know, she would beg Pornhub to get the videos down. She would be hassled to prove that she was a victim, prove that she was underage, which is crazy because they're not asking for that kind of proof

0:23.4

to upload a video, but she ended up dropping out of school,

0:27.2

getting bullied, she got addicted to drugs, to numb the pain,

0:31.1

she tried to kill herself multiple times,

0:33.1

and then wound up homeless living out of car.

0:35.4

But Serena is suing the literal hell out of Pornhub,

0:39.3

its owners, its executives, the hedge funds,

0:42.3

and she's suing Visa.

0:44.3

The following program contains subject matter

0:47.3

that some viewers may find disturbing.

0:49.3

Viewer discretion advised.

0:53.3

How can I help?

0:55.0

How can I be useful in ending needless suffering?

0:58.5

Do not be afraid of work that has no end.

1:04.4

We have to organize a social movement.

1:09.1

We have an opportunity to lead by example versus just talking, hot air.

1:14.5

I think the more people in this fight, the more we grow, eventually it could change.

1:19.3

You know, the people are the ones that can make the change.

1:25.8

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to change agents, an Ironclad original presented by Firecracker Farm.

1:32.2

We're going to get into a pretty heavy episode today, something that might upset some people, something that might be hard to confront.

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