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Aspire with Emma Grede

How People-Pleasing, Perfectionism, And Burnout Are Actually Trauma Responses With Dr. Thema

Aspire with Emma Grede

E13 Media

Entrepreneurship, Business, Society & Culture

4.6874 Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2025

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Summary

What’s really holding you back from the life you want? In this powerful conversation, Emma Grede sits down with Dr. Thema Bryant — psychologist, author, and pastor — to unpack the hidden stories, unresolved trauma, and self-sabotaging patterns that keep us from thriving. Together, they dive into: Why so many of us are standing on our own wings — and how to stop. The surprising ways fear of failure (and even fear of success) shapes our choices. Why women are conditioned to shrink their power — and how to reclaim it. The lingering scars of the pandemic we still haven’t healed. Practical tools for setting boundaries, rewriting old narratives, and living whole. Dr. Thema doesn’t just explain the psychology — she offers real steps for anyone ready to stop running, face the pain, and move from surviving to thriving.  If you’ve ever felt exhausted, unworthy, or stuck, this episode will give you the clarity and courage to finally break free. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

There's something I come back to again and again on this show and in my own life.

0:13.8

And it's the realization that you cannot manifest true success if you're not whole.

0:18.3

You can be in constant motion.

0:19.9

You can build, create, lead, hustle, push. But if you haven't dealt with all your old stuff, if you're not whole. You can be in constant motion. You can build, create, lead, hustle, push. But if you haven't dealt with all your old stuff, if you're not taking accountability for your life, at some point it all catches up with you. Now, I've lived this. I've built companies, taken risks, and I've raised four kids. And I've still had to confront my own anger, my trauma, and the parts of myself I didn't want to look at.

0:39.1

Because healing for me hasn't been optional.

0:41.5

It's been a non-negotiable.

0:43.3

But here's the part that's harder to talk about.

0:45.5

We don't always know how to start healing or what healing even looks like, especially when life is busy, complicated and full of responsibility.

0:55.7

That's why I'm so excited to bring you today's guest, Dr. Tamer Brian. Dr. Tamer is a clinical psychologist, a minister and one of

1:01.7

the most powerful voices I've ever heard when it comes to healing trauma, integrating your life

1:07.0

and coming home to yourself. Her work is deep and layered. She brings the science and the

1:12.6

soul. And she's helped so many people, myself included, rethink what it really means to grow.

1:18.5

In this conversation, we talk about how trauma, big or small shapes us. We get into perfectionism,

1:24.7

fear, guilt, burnout, self-forgiveness, and that very real struggle of trying

1:29.3

to hold it all together while quietly falling apart. We talk about leadership and workplace trauma

1:34.4

and what it means to show up as a whole person in environments that don't always allow for wholeness.

1:40.1

Coming up, Dr. Tame O'Brien.

1:50.9

Okay. Coming up, Dr. Tame O'Brien. I just have to say I'm really incredibly happy to have you here today.

1:55.7

It feels like just a long time coming and I have so many questions to ask you.

2:01.4

Oh, wonderful.

2:02.7

I've said it already, but I'm going to try to not turn it into my own personal therapy session.

2:07.1

I bet the questions you have, many people have.

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