Hey mom and daughter fighting listeners, we're off due to the holiday, but we wanted to bring you an episode from our friends at Slate's How-To Podcast.

This is the time of year where a lot of people evaluate what they want to change in the coming year.

And for a lot of parents, that includes carving out more time for your interests.

On this episode of How-To host Courtney Martin talks with Eve Rodsky.

She's the author of Fair Play and Find Your Unicorn Space about how parents can evenly

divide the domestic chores and find time to pursue creative passions.

I'm going to hand the mic over to Courtney and we'll see you back here on Thursday.

So I go to this preschool program where I'm finally getting my older son into school

and the preschool teacher affirms that the people around me are going to become my support system.

And then I looked down at my name tag, Allison, and my name tag said,

Zach's mom.

And so I remember thinking that day, these are the people that are going to know me better than anyone's ever known me in my entire life.

Well, they don't even know my fucking name.

And that's when I realized that not only would I be abandoned by my husband and my workplace but by

society in general by having them forced me into these boxes parent a partner and a

professional.

Welcome to have partner and a professional.

Welcome to How-Toe, I'm Courtney Martin.

You know, this might surprise you,

but I've been thinking a lot about man caves. You know those basements or garages or

whatever where guys get to play poker and let it all hang out far from the watchful

eye of wives and daughters and such. Well as you might be able to tell, I am skeptical of the way mancaves

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