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PBS News Hour - Segments

How online misinformation is ‘supercharging’ conspiracy theories

PBS News Hour - Segments

PBS NewsHour

News, Daily News

41K Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

Can conspiracy theorists be shaken from their firm — and unsubstantiated — beliefs? Podcaster Zach Mack wanted to find out, so he turned to someone he’s debated about conspiracies for years: his father. He tells what happened in “Alternate Realties,” a three-part podcast from NPR. Mack and science writer David Robert Grimes join John Yang to discuss. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

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0:00.0

This past week saw the release of a trogue of documents related to the assassination of John F. Kennedy,

0:06.2

a subject that's long been fertile ground for conspiracy theories.

0:10.2

Other favorite topics include beliefs that the moon landing, the 9-11 attacks, and the January 6th assault on the Capitol were all staged.

0:18.9

Podcaster Zach Mack wanted to see if conspiracy theorists could be shaken

0:22.6

from their firm but unsubstantiated beliefs. So he turned to someone he's debated about

0:28.1

conspiracies for years, his father. Mack tells what happened in a three-part podcast from NPR

0:34.0

called Alternate Realities. This clip begins with Mac talking with members of his family about his father.

0:40.4

This is a story about my dad, but it's really a story about what he believes.

0:46.1

And how his beliefs are impacting our family.

0:49.4

We've been married 40 years.

0:50.8

It's very hard to walk away from.

0:52.7

I want him to fundamentally change who he is and be a

0:55.9

different person. How can I halfway believe what I believe?

1:00.6

Zach Mack joins us now along with David Robert Grimes. He's a science writer. He wrote a book called

1:06.2

Good Thinking, Why Flawed Logic puts us all at risk and how critical thinking could save the world.

1:12.5

Zach, I want to play another clip of your father sharing his beliefs.

1:17.2

They're going to shut us down because of this EMP, all the supply lines are going to be disrupted.

1:25.1

So there will be a one world government with a one world currency.

1:29.9

I think the Biden has probably three or four, maybe more body doubles.

1:35.8

Obama will be found guilty of treason.

1:40.2

Zach, has he always believed things like this for as long as you can remember?

1:45.8

Kind of. Not, not exactly. It's been a long time coming. He grew up in a household that was very distrusting of vaccines and really sort of skeptical of major institutions like education and the health, you know, health organizations. And then in the last

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