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Welcome back to TFC, and this week we are talking to a really special and unique guest that I personally, for reasons, which will quickly become evident, have been very, very excited to talk to. Now, the main crux of our conversation is going to be leaving a toxic work environment. Now, obviously, the person that I'm going to be speaking to

comes from a very specific point of view, a very specific industry, which we'll get to.

But I know that for most of us, many of us, I'll say most of us, having at some point a toxic work experience is basically par for the course of having a career.

I know I've been in toxic work environments.

And sometimes for a lot of us, we don't even realize how bad the situation was until we are

actually out of it.

But one thing that's also pretty fascinating about our guest today is that she is moving

full time into consulting doing the job that the protagonist in my romance novel does, which I thought was like a fully made up job cobbled together from several other existing jobs.

But it turns out if you're so inclined, you can actually make that into a real career and get paying clients to do it, which when someone emailed me and was like, hey, I love this book,

so I decided to do this job. I was like, skirt, stop the presses, and I knew I had to talk to her.

So let's get right into my guest today, Erica Kana. Hi, Erica. Hi, Chelsea. Thank you so much

for having me on today. Thank you for being here. So as I teed up in the

intro, you are someone who was in a pretty toxic work environment in an industry that I think is

rather notorious for some of its not so great work practices. Can you start by contextualizing for our audience, kind of the industry

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