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From WBEZ Chicago, this is Nerdette. I'm Greta Johnson. We did it. We made it to

another weekend. Coming up, a Nerdette listener and her kid help us figure out

what the heck is going on with teenagers who don't want drivers licenses.

I just want to point out that you never do that walk and I drive you.

I always walk. I often walk.

But first, it's our chance to sit back, relax, and unwind from the week that was

two excellent humans. With us this week, we have the co-hosts of the podcast

just between us, Gabe Dunn and Alice and Raskin. Hi, you two.

Hello. Hello. Thank you for having us.

Okay, so let's jump in. There's this really weird story that caught our attention this week.

It was an op-ed from the New York Times about credit card rewards programs, which is essentially

saying that the reason more affluent people can rack up points is because of the fees that

companies are charging people who can't pay off the balances on their cards and just credit card

transactions in general. This is something I had never thought about, but of course, now I feel

gross. Gabe, you are literally the host of a podcast called Bad with Money.

Does this surprise you at all? It actually did surprise me, but I shouldn't be because as

the host of that show, what started as me just asking questions about money has literally become,

I think we should burn down the Bank of America. I should have understood where that was coming

from too. Also, when you get these points, what it's taking away from. If you're using points

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