Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Weekender edition of My Craig podcast. I'm J.D.

I'm here with Nick Howells. What do you about? I'm good. I'm good. I'm feeling, you know, it's a good day so far.

We were covering, well, you know, let's just tell everybody. We're recording this before we record the reaction to the GOP debate on Wednesday night.

I've got places to be, got things to do, but we wanted to take a minute to do another one of our deep dives.

We've been dealing with so much ugliness and so much destruction that we wanted to take a second to do one of these movie

deep dives. Today, Nick, we are talking about 1999's cult classic office space, written and

directed by Mike Judge, of course, the creator of Beavis and Butthead, King of the Hill,

idiocrycy, a whole list of different things.

Before we get to the actual movie, Nick, I want to hear what your experience with Mike Judge has been as a creator, as a writer, all of that. I've got my own background here.

You know, that's a really great question. And, you know, I was in college when Devis and Butthead first, you know, land on the scene from Mike Judge. And I was really, really into it. It was kind of this subversive thing, the drawings. I was an art major. So I was into an art at the time. And so like just the crudeness of the drawings. But like, you know, at that time, I think what ended up, what we learned a lot was some of the very successful movies and things like Beavs and Butthead, they didn't have to like necessarily look amazing and like sound amazing. It was like the story and it was the humor. And if you could nail that, you know, Brothers McMullen, it comes to mind as well, another low budget film from that era that wasn't, didn't look great, didn't, filmmaking wasn't amazing. But because of the story,

the characters and you connected with it, it told us that we didn't have to have this beautiful

shining, high budget thing to become successful and have something that works.

Yeah, Mike Judge was a part of that D.Y. movement, you know, like the animation associated with him has never been spectacular. But Judge is a very singular type of person. There's not a whole lot of people who can pull off what he's been able to pull off. I, you know, we're talking about this movie because there is a lot of cultural, political, historical stuff that we can use this as a jumping off point.

Of course, we do these in order to reconsider times and also to use these as teaching methods.

But judges rise as a creative person.

It happened at a very particular time.

It's not a surprise that we have a bunch of these things like Beavis and Butthead, South Park, you name it,

a bunch of things where people started just hustling and creating things that caught on and then,

you know, went out and did things.

I, for Beavis and Butthead for me, I loved it as a kid.

You know, I actually, one of the anecdotes I like to me, I loved it as a kid.

You know, I actually, one of the anecdotes I like to tell is I got sent home from school because I was wearing a Beavis and Butthead shirt.

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