Hey, everybody got a new cancer survivor interview for you today.

It's Carol Howard, and she had paroteneal cancer diagnosed in 2016, and she's alive and well today.

And it's also very involved with Healing Strong, and we'll probably talk about that some, the holistic cancer support group network that I'm a huge fan of.

So, Carol, how are you?

I'm good.

Good to see you. On your program. So let's hear your story. How did you find out you had cancer?

Well, in the, this, well, late summer of 2016, I was having some problems and I went into urgent care. The problems were like more with my bladder, I thought. And so I went in and they diagnosed pylo-nephritis. And that's an infection

in the kidney. And so they gave me an antibiotic for that. And when I was done with the course of antibiotics, and I don't usually like to take antibiotics

anyway, so I was really in tune to my body what was happening with it.

And after I finished the antibiotic, I still felt kind of sick, actually, kind of nauseated

and a little bloated probably.

I didn't know what was going on, but I knew

it wasn't normal afterwards. So I went back in and they did some palpitations of my abdomen

and tried to find out what was going on with my stomach there. And so they decided to do a scan. And they did a scan and found two

large tumors. Well, one was large on the right ovary and the other one wasn't very large at all.

So they sent me, like I said, for the scans. And then they says, well, we don't know what this is.

We're going to have to look further, maybe do surgery.

I said, well, okay.

I had had cysts on my ovaries before, but they were just like hair and teeth,

which sometimes happens.

So I wasn't really too worried about it then when they told me that.

But then as we got farther along, I started thinking in my head,

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