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The Bunker

How Not To Waste The Next Four Years: MIATTA FAHNBULLEH explains

The Bunker

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News, Politics, Society & Culture, Government

4.6984 Ratings

🗓️ 3 August 2020

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

If we’re stuck with a hard right government for the next four years, how should progressives best use this time? Chief Executive of the New Economics Foundation MIATTA FAHNBULLEH talks to Alex Andreou about the opportunities amid the chaos, how it’s impossible to triangulate where the Johnson government is going, and what Starmer needs to do right now to build the platform that can win in 2024. “It’s just not clear what the ideology of Johnson is. They’re more opportunistic than anything.” “These moments come up once in a couple of generations, where everything is thrown up in the air.” “We need to come together and say we need change. When people come together, politicians will have to listen.” Presented by Alex Andreou. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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I loved going to college.

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1:16.1

We are living through some interesting times, has to be an understatement.

1:20.5

A global pandemic on top of very calibration of a relationship with Europe on the tale of a decade of austerity

1:27.0

a resurgence of populism and far-right movements in many countries.

1:31.0

These changes are huge and terrifying, but are they also an opportunity for a reset?

1:38.1

I am Alex Andrea and I'm especially delighted to welcome to today's program the chief executive of the New

1:44.3

Economics Foundation the British Liberian Economist Miata Van Buele. Welcome Miata.

1:51.6

How are you? Very well. Thank you so much for having me on.

1:55.0

Oh, it's my pleasure. As we were discussing before we started recording, I'm a bit of a fan boy.

2:01.0

How has lockdown been for you? Have you been able to do most of

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