Hello, everyone.

Welcome to Fat Mascara podcast about beauty culture.

I am Jessica Matlin.

Yes, you are.

I'm Jen Sullivan.

Hi, guys.

All right, listen, I want to say, before we get to our big interview, which is Fabuloso, I want to say thank you to everyone who is

coming in and bringing us the reviews, whether on Spotify, the stars, iTunes, the stars,

and a nice chunky review. We are reading them, but we want more. And we'll read, listen, if they're

really provocative, if they're really provocative, if they're really

interesting, if they're really juicy, we'll read them on the air. Even if they're not.

If they're just like, cool show? Cool show. Two thumbs up. Yeah. Go over to Apple Podcasts and

review us or Spotify. That also helps with discoverability for our show. So we provide this as a free service to you, but we do need...

It is a free service. We provide a service. It's true. You get tips, you get tricks, you get advice,

you get a little giggle, company, company while you're doing things, company. Are you driving alone right now?

It's fun to have me and Jess here along with you on the

speakers, isn't it? Hopefully. You know who else is going to be so much fun for you then?

Mary. Okay. So before I tell everybody who's like Mary's little official bio, you've wanted to have

this guest for how long, at least over a year. Why the interest in Madame Sweat, Jess?

Because we talk about a lot of nice things on this show, nice beauty things, good smells,

you know, new fragrance, light lipstick, all, yeah, yeah, yeah. But a big part of beauty is cleanliness,

right? And, you know, making things not smell bad. And I like that this woman,

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