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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

How not to be totally wrong about American politics

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump is often labeled a threat to democracy – but could political myths perpetuated by ordinary Americans be just as much of an issue? Millions of voters confidently cling to political myths as if they were hard truths, unaware that they’re propping up the fake news they claim to hate. In this episode of The Bunker, Chris Jones speaks with Dr. Casey Burgat, host of Mastering the Room and author of We Hold These Truths: How to Spot the Myths That Are Holding America Back, to examine the heart of misinformation, its far-reaching effects on democracy, and the fundamental misconceptions shaping America. Buy We Hold These Truths: How to Spot the Myths That Are Holding America Back through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund The Bunker by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. • We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to Indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit.   www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Written and presented by Chris Jones. Producer: Liam Tait. Audio editors: Simon Williams. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Instagram | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Sign up for your $1 a month trial at Shopify.com slash setup. Hello and welcome to the bunker. Your need to know on news and politics five days a week. I'm Chris Jones. We've heard the phrase, Trump is a danger to democracy over and over again

0:56.1

for a while now, and that may be very true in many areas. But he is not the only thing casting

1:01.7

doubt upon America's political system. No, ordinary voters for years have been guilty of taking

1:07.1

ideas, myths, if you will, and believing them as facts without a shred of truth being in them.

1:11.9

Dr. Casey Berger is the Legislative Affairs Program Director at George Washington University,

1:17.3

host of Mastering the Room Podcast, and author of the new book, We Hold These Truths, How to Spot the Myths that are Holding America Back.

1:23.8

Casey, welcome to the bunker.

1:25.5

Thank you so much. Glad to be in a bunker with some fellas.

1:30.4

Excellent. Let's get straight to it, because there's a lot in this book. There's a lot of myths to

1:35.2

dispel. So first of all, you've teamed up with a lot of people here to get into all of this.

1:40.7

Could you perhaps tell me just a couple of the myths that are in this book the most relevant to

1:48.2

today?

1:49.2

Yeah, the sad part is that they're all relevant and that they all just keep coming back and

1:53.6

back.

1:53.9

And you mentioned years, I'm going to one up you and say, this has been decades that we've

1:57.6

been hearing a lot of these same stories.

2:00.1

And now we're on another generation falling for these same things, which lead hearing a lot of these same stories, and now we're on another generation

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