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Unchained

How NFTs Are Revolutionizing How Creators Make Money - Ep.220

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2021

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Jamie Burke, CEO of Outlier Ventures, and Mason Nystrom, a research analyst at Messari, discuss the NFT craze that has enveloped the crypto world over the past few weeks. In this episode, they talk about: their backgrounds, and how they became involved in crypto (1:19) the major catalysts -- specifically Beeple and NBA Top Shot -- that have brought NFTs into the mainstream (5:29) why NFTs are a “megatrend” and not just another ICO-like bubble (13:35) how to explain non-fungible tokens to normies (18:06) what someone is actually purchasing when they buy an NFT (24:46) the reasons behind NBA Top Shot's success and why it is so difficult to withdraw money from its platform (36:27) the best way to scale NFTs and why Ethereum, despite severe storage limitations, will most likely remain the most popular blockchain on which to mint NFTs (41:44) why the gaming, fashion, and music industries will be disrupted by NFTs (49:37) when the current subscription-based business model for content creators will transition to the ownership economy (55:10) the differences between the marketplaces and platforms that make up the NFT economy (57:06) whether NFT valuations will go to zero and the challenges of appraising digital art (1:03:39) their predictions for the market capitalization of NFTs by the end of 2021 (1:15:23)   Thank you to our sponsors!  Download the Crypto.com app and get $25 with the code “Laura”: https://crypto.onelink.me/J9Lg/unchainedcardearnfeb2021    Square: https://square.com/go/unchained    Episode Links:    Jamie Burke Twitter: https://twitter.com/jamie247  Outlier Ventures: https://twitter.com/OVioHQ  Content: the open metaverse: https://outlierventures.io/research/the-open-metaverse-os/  100xARt: https://art.art/blog/jamie-burke-and-100xart-a-true-story-of-the-rising-art-order  podcast: https://outlierventures.io/podcasts/    Mason Nystrom Twitter:  https://twitter.com/masonnystrom  Messari: https://messari.io/  Content: NFTs as an investment strategy: https://twitter.com/masonnystrom/status/1310942572429312010  evolution of content: https://twitter.com/masonnystrom/status/1361692703025729536  psychology of crypto art collecting: https://twitter.com/masonnystrom/status/1365028848509870080  the current state of NFTs: https://twitter.com/masonnystrom/status/1363283887691038720    NFT Sales Mentioned Beeple: https://www.cnn.com/style/article/beeple-first-nft-artwork-at-auction-sale-buyer-intl-scli/index.html  Previous Unconfirmed interview with Beeple: https://unchainedpodcast.com/beeple-on-how-and-why-he-raked-in-3-5-million/ Taco Bell: https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/8/22319868/taco-bell-nfts-gif-tacos-sell  3LAU: https://edm.com/gear-tech/3lau-record-breaking-nft-sale  Jack Dorsey Tweet: https://v.cent.co/tweet/20  Kings of Leon album: https://www.maxim.com/entertainment/kings-of-leon-releases-album-in-nft  NBA Top Shot: https://www.actionnetwork.com/news/nba-top-shot-blockchain-nba-highlight-marketplace    NFT Guides New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/22/business/nft-nba-top-shot-crypto.html?utm_source=morning_brew  DappRadar: https://dappradar.com/blog/what-are-non-fungible-tokens-nfts  Andrew Steinwold: https://andrewsteinwold.substack.com/p/-quick-overview-of-the-nft-ecosystem  Decrypt: https://decrypt.co/resources/non-fungible-tokens-nfts-explained-guide-learn-blockchain CoinDesk: https://www.coindesk.com/nfts-became-art-everything-nft    Miscellaneous Links:  Chris Dixon blog: https://a16z.com/2021/02/27/nfts-and-a-thousand-true-fans/  NFT market cap: https://nonfungible.com/market/history  Outlier Ventures decentralized accelerator program: https://outlierventures.io/base-camp/  Top NFT marketplaces (DappRadar): https://decrypt.co/resources/non-fungible-tokens-nfts-explained-guide-learn-blockchain  Jesse Walden’s “Ownership Economy”: https://variant.mirror.xyz/T8kdtZRIgy_srXB5B06L8vBqFHYlEBcv6ae2zR6Y_eo  Flow blockchain: https://www.onflow.org/primer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. Welcome to Unchained, your no-hi resource for all things crypto. I'm your

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host, Laura Shin, a journalist with over two decades of experience. I started covering

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crypto five years ago and as a senior editor at Forbes was the first mainstream media reporter

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Today's topic is NFTs. Here to discuss our Jamie Burke founder and CEO at Outlier Ventures

1:08.2

and Mason Nicetrend, research analyst at Missouri. Welcome Jamie and Mason. Hey, thanks

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for having me. Finally go on here. Hey Laura, hey Jamie, great to be on. So Jamie, let's

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start with you. Tell us how you got an crypto and how you can have NFTs as one of your

1:25.2

focus areas and what Outlier does. Yeah, well, I'll give you the abbreviated version

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because I've been in the space for about seven and a half years. Well, I found it outlier

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seven and a half years ago, been in crypto personally for a little bit longer than that.

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And the short story is, you know, seven and a half years ago when we founded Outlier Ventures,

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we were the first institutional investor in blockchain in Europe. But there wasn't really

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much to invest in from a startup perspective. So we were a bit more of a studio because we

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were getting applied learning. We thought, well, maybe this will help us be a better investor

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someday, understanding the technology's limitations. As the space matured, we began to believe

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