All right, hey, everybody. Today I'm interviewing another holistic cancer survivor. It's

Murray Cluley and his wife, Mags. He was diagnosed with stage four kidney cancer in 2012. He had

surgery, had the kidney removed, but the cancer metastasized to his lungs, liver, and abdomen,

and he was able to heal it holistically through diet and lifestyle changes.

And I love these stories.

Obviously, I love them because it is also a similar story to my own.

And I think it's important to share these stories because every time you hear a story of someone who is healed against the odds, your belief increases, your faith increases, your hope increases.

And that's what I'm here to do.

I'm here to help you not only just to give you hope, which sometimes false hope is a thing, too,

but to give you real hope and help you understand that healing is possible and that people have

healed all types and stages of cancer. And these are normal people with no special abilities.

And no offense, I'm also a person of no special abilities.

So, anyway, Murray and Mags, great to see you. Welcome.

Thank you for having us. Thank you.

And tell everybody where you're from.

We're from Scotland originally. We met in Scotland. We've moved around the place. We've moved on aircraft engineers.

So I've lived down mainly airports, Heathrow and all that. And we had the chance, an opportunity

to leave a cold, wet Scotland where I worked to get a job in the Middle East back in 2004,

jumped at the chance.

And now in Somerset in England.

So let's talk about your cancer story.

Yeah, so this is it. So living in the Middle East, I've been living there for eight years with Mags and two kids. We had a fantastic lifestyle, beach, beach and all that and then one day I was

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