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Three minutes after ten is the time. And there comes a point, doesn't there, where you just have to roll with it. You just have to hope that the people in charge are doing the best that they can do. You just have to hope that the advice you're receiving is the best available advice. And you just have to hope that the choices you make are the most efficacious choices, not only for your own health, but also, of course,

for the health of the herd. It's quite a liberating realization sometimes to note that we could

spend another three hours, or two hours, actually, waxing and waning about various

imponderables, well, ponderables, various known-known unknowns, unknown unknowns, unknown unknowns, and

unknown-knowns. I do think Donald Rumsfeld deserves some retrospective apology for the

mockery he received when he described those four categories. The more one thinks about them,

the more clear it becomes that he did actually make perfect sense when he invented those phrases.

But I think today is that day, isn't it?

I'm very worried about some elements of our preparations for this.

Not so much by the press conferences given by the Prime Minister and the Chief Medical Officer and the Government Scientific Advisor,

because I can get my head around all of that, but there are so many gaps in the knowledge.

I'd love to sit here and say, you know, as one would with matters economic, just listen to the Governor of the Bank of England and cross your fingers.

All right? That obviously is the position that all sensible people would take in circumstances

such as this, because you don't have any choice. I guess, you know, it's impossible to have this

conversation without reflecting upon the damage that the referendum in 2016 has done to the relationship between evidence

and democracy. If 52% of the country voted today to put an astrologer in charge of our

response to coronavirus instead of doctors, I would still be screaming furiously that that is a

terrible mistake. But when it comes to the economy, governor of the Bank of England,

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