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How Much Longer Can Football Last?

Radio Atlantic

The Atlantic

Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.4 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2018

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Mark Leibovich has a day job covering the reality show of politics as the New York Times Magazine’s Chief National Correspondent, but he’s spent the spent the last few years reporting a book on America’s other biggest reality show: football. The new season begins with Colin Kaepernick the face of Nike, Donald Trump the NFL’s biggest commentator, and America’s most popular sport facing a myriad of problems. How does football survive both CTE and declining ratings? Which is the bigger swamp – Washington, DC, or an NFL owner’s box? Links - Big Game: The NFL in Dangerous Times (Mark Leibovich, 2018) - “The Absurdist Spectacle of the Nike Boycotts” (Hannah Giorgis, September 5, 2018) - “Colin Kaepernick, Nike, and the Myth of Good and Bad Companies” (Joshua Hunt, September 5, 2018) - “Taking a Blowtorch to Debate” (Alex Wagner, September 5, 2018) - “Trump’s Divisive and Relentless Politicization of the NFL” (Ben Strauss, September 1, 2018) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

At the crossroads of artistic insight and intellectual curiosity, we find the edge of reason.

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Dive into the heart of artistic inspiration, rooted in Enlightenment thinking, and discover how contemporary creators are holding a mirror up to society to reflect who we are, where we've been, and where we're headed.

0:20.0

Join me, Jeff Chang, at the Edge of Reason, a new limited podcast from Atlantic

0:25.6

Rethink, the branded content studio at the Atlantic, and Howzer and Worth.

0:30.4

This week marks another kickoff of another NFL season.

0:34.0

Fans are gearing up to watch the armies of American Football Wage War,

0:38.0

but the even bigger fight might be the one behind the scenes.

0:41.0

A cast of giant personalities, Roger Giddell, Colin Kappernik, Donald Trump, are facing

0:47.3

off in a clash that would be pop culture gold if only real lives weren't at stake.

0:52.4

Is the biggest soap opera of this NFL season

0:54.7

going to happen on the field?

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Or off of it.

0:59.5

This is Radio Atlantic.

1:18.6

I am delighted to welcome back my oft-gallavanting co-, over in New York, wearing her Atlantic Contributing Editor hat,

1:24.8

the esteemed Alex Wagner.

1:26.4

Hello, Alex.

1:28.8

It is great to be back, Matt, and I'm glad that the contractual stipulation that I must be introduced as esteemed finally made its way into the podcast.

1:38.0

Well, here with me in DC is my not-so-secret unofficial co-host, the Atlantic senior editor,

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the esteemed Jillian B White.

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Hi, not.

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Hello, Jillian, thank you again for joining us.

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Today, we welcome to the table the one and only Mark Leibovich who is

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