How Much Joy Did the Curse Cost Me?

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John Piper, Unknown, 163859, Pastor, Ask, Theology, Desiring God, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

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🗓️ 25 May 2020

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Because of the fall, we are by nature dead to joy in God. Because of the cross, we can experience more joy in God than we ever could have had in Eden.

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0:00.0	Well, how much joy did the curse cost me?
0:07.4	By his curse on creation, didn't God intentionally put a limiter on the joy that we can have
0:12.8	in him in this life?
0:15.5	That is a really solid question from a podcast listener named Michael, Hello Pastor John.
0:19.9	Can you explain what the futility, fall curse cost us today regarding our felt experience
0:25.7	of joy?
0:26.7	I believe this was the deliberate act of God.
0:29.5	So for even obedient Christians, how does the intention of God to subject all of us and
0:35.1	all of creation under futility, fall curse cost us in God glorifying joy?
0:41.7	Seems to me that God intentionally put a limiter on our joy experience in this world.
0:45.9	And thus, he likewise put a limit on how much we can glorify him to, am I wrong here?
0:52.5	No, you are not wrong.
0:54.7	When Adam and Eve sinned when they preferred their own wisdom to God's wisdom and preferred
1:04.3	their own perception of what was good and pleasant to God's perception, they died.
1:11.1	God had said in Genesis 217 of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, you shall not
1:16.9	eat in the day that you eat of it, you will surely die.
1:22.9	So when they ate, a two things happened.
1:27.6	The sentence of physical death and separation from God was, bang, confirmed, gavel came
1:35.8	down on the courtroom of heaven guilty.
1:40.3	To be hanged by the neck until dead, sentence delivered, execution assured, time fixed in
1:47.3	the mind of God, done your dead.
1:49.9	And the second thing that happened was the spiritual dimension of it happened in their
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