We're here. We're listening. You're listening to a podcast. We're not listening to a podcast

right now. We kind of are. We're figuring out a podcast as it's happening. I'm not listening

to as we go. So just wish us luck. What's up? This is Joseph Raysist. My manager T and that

was Kevin Bartel producer. And we are here with guest host Tracy Thomas of the stacks. Hi. Hi.

Tracy. Tony is. God knows where Tony is. Just like it could be anywhere. She just

just Tony San Diego. You know, you know, it is one of those things where I was like actually,

like I truly I saw her yesterday. We talked about it. And I do not remember where she is. So

there's just a sense she's doing she's doing work stuff. But more importantly, Tracy,

have you been? I've been good. I'm always excited to come back and talk about racism. You know,

it's a nice departure from the boring world of books is the exciting world of racism. Oh,

God, that is such a. You know, that's what we bring to the table. Just giving giving people

an opportunity to a wallow in the worst shit on this. I did. I wanted to give you a Tracy

for anyone who's been listening for a while. I wanted to sorry, I wanted to give you an update.

Not a thing. But for anyone who has been listening for a while or needs a reminder. So Tracy's

podcast, the sax is just a great book podcast. And you are a reader in a way that makes me

legitimately. I want to say, I would say jealous, but like a little scared. I just the way

you churn through stuff. I'm just like, oh my god. How is this possible? The Freddie

Krueger of books is what I've read. Reledless. Just relentless and all consuming.

But so, oh gosh, I don't even remember how long ago it was now a while ago. Like a fall, maybe.

Oh my gosh. Actually was I'm realizing purposefully not not remembering the like the time because

now my accomplishments to start to look worse and worse. No, no, you're right. You're working.

You're busy. Oh, yeah, gosh. I it is true. I'm at the point in the TV season where I'm like,

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