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Afford Anything | Make Smart Money Choices

How Much Can I Spend in Retirement? - with Dr. Wade Pfau

Afford Anything | Make Smart Money Choices

Paula Pant | Cumulus Podcast Network

Entrepreneurship, Investing, Business

4.73.6K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2019

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

#216: It’s September! If you’ve been listening to the show for the past few months, then you know that I’m on what I’ve dubbed my September Sabbatical, in which I’m taking a break from podcast production and traveling the globe. In light of that, we’re digging through the archives and airing some of my favorite interviews on the show, in between airing interviews I’ve done on other podcasts.  Welcome to another episode from our archives! This one was recorded in March 2018, and Dr. Wade Pfau had a ton of insight into the four percent rule that so many of us are concerned with. First, here’s a brief history of how the four percent rule came to be.  In 1994, William Bengen decided to look at 30-year timespans throughout U.S. History, beginning with the year 1926.  He worked under the assumption that a retiree held 50 percent stocks (in the form of S&P 500 Index), and 50 percent bonds (intermediate-term government bonds).  He looked at two things: the worst-case scenario, and how much an investor could sustainably withdraw from their portfolio under that worst-case scenario.  The year 1966 ended up being one of the worst to retire during, and an investor could withdraw 4.15 percent during the first year, and 4.15 percent, adjusted for inflation, every subsequent year.  That is how the 4 percent rule came to be.  Dr. Wade Pfau, a Professor of Retirement Income at The American College of Financial Services, argues that the 4 percent rule may not be the end-all-be-all we think it is. He voices his hesitations and explains how you can determine how much you can afford to spend in retirement on this episode.  Enjoy! P.S. - We’ll return to our regular podcast production schedule in October!  For more information, visit the show notes at http://affordanything.com/216  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

You can afford anything but not everything.

0:10.4

Every decision that you make is a trade-off against something else, and that doesn't

0:13.6

just apply to your money.

0:14.7

It applies to your time, your focus, your energy, your attention, anything in your life

0:18.3

that's a scarce or limited resource.

0:20.0

And that leads to two

0:20.8

questions. Number one, what matters most to you? And number two, how do you align your daily

0:25.8

decisions in accordance? Answering these two questions is a lifetime practice. And that is what

0:30.8

this podcast is here to explore. My name is Paula Pan. I am recording this right now from Tokyo,

0:35.8

Japan. It is the month of September 2019,

0:38.5

and I am taking this month off to go travel. So today, you are going to hear an interview that we

0:45.0

originally aired in July of 2018, a little over a year ago. This is an interview with Dr. Wade Fow.

0:50.7

He's a professor of retirement income at the American College of Financial Services

0:54.6

in Brynmar, Pennsylvania. He's one of the most cited researchers in the nascent field of

0:59.9

retirement income and retirement planning. He's received awards from the Journal of Financial

1:03.8

Planning and the Retirement Management Journal, and he was named an innovator by Investment News.

1:08.8

He's also a chartered financial analyst, and he holds a doctorate

1:11.9

in economics from Princeton. Today, he joins us to discuss how much money a person can spend

1:16.4

in retirement, and he introduces some counterintuitive ideas. We talk about the four

1:21.8

Ls of retirement planning, we talk about a U-shaped asset allocation, and we talk about two

1:26.4

frameworks for thinking about your approach to retirement planning, the probability framework versus the safety first framework.

1:33.8

Before we dive into today's interview, I would like to let you know that our course on rental property investing, which is called Your First Rental Property, opens for enrollment today.

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