Hi, it's Diane. On my mind, Doge.

Donald Trump has tapped Elon Musk and Bibb Kramaswamy to head the newly created Department

of Government Efficiency.

In terms of people sometimes ask, like, where would you start with government efficiency? And it's kind of like being in a room where the entire room is targets.

And so you can shoot in any direction and not miss.

They say they'll cut one third of the federal budget slash regulations, reduce the federal workforce,

and more.

It's really hard to find places where, yeah, you can cut a trillion or two trillion dollars

and not drastically cut back the services people expect from the government.

Joining me to talk about what the two have in mind

and what it will take to accomplish their goals is David Ferenthal.

He's an investigative reporter for the New York Times. David, the co-leaders of this new department of efficiency have really proclaimed some lofty goals.

Tell me what they hope or believe they can accomplish.

Well, we really are in the period of hopes and dreams, right? They don't have any power at all,

and so everything is possible. But what they've talked about is some pretty enormous changes.

So on the campaign trail, Elon Musk talked about cutting

$2 trillion out of the federal budget. Keep in mind, the federal budget is about $6.7 trillion.

So we're talking, you know, a little less than a third of the federal budget disappearing.

They've also talked about eliminating entire agencies, moving agencies out of Washington

so people quit, significantly downsizing the federal

workforce, and I think closest to their hearts, eliminating or stopping the enforcement of

thousands of federal regulations. Now, in addition, they put in their cutting daylight savings

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