When you're reporting today off the narrative, part of the strategy of those who don't want you to know the facts that they want to hide is to label you a partisan,

hoping that it peels off at least 50% of the audience. And it is somewhat effective if they can get people to see everything through a political lens, even when it's not political, then they're ahead of the game.

Cheryl Atkinson is a five-time Emmy Award-winning investigative journalist and host of full measure.

When it comes to health, our government has been guilty of making policy based on narratives that

it wants to push, which ultimately I think are driven by money interests rather than by facts and statistics.

For years, she's been tracking the rise of censorship, biased fact checkers, and narrative-enforcing journalism.

How does she see things today and the release of the new documents on the Trump-Russia investigation?

Will Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and the Trump administration be able to fulfill their campaign promises to reform the various health-related agencies?

They have a million ways to slow walk and to stop and to controversialize and to leak to try to make things not happen.

So that's the thing they're up against.

This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Yanya Kellick.

Sheryl Atkinson, such a pleasure to have you back on American Thought Leaders.

Good to be here.

We interviewed about four years ago in October of 2020, and this was right at the moment

that Twitter had decided to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story. And I got you to comment on that.

I want to roll that tape to start us off because I think it's a great place for our discussion.

Absolutely. I mean, the notion that Twitter would claim to be an instant expert on a story they have no knowledge about it,

their experts can't possibly, even if they were to try to

contradict some of the Hunter Biden story that was in the New York Post. They certainly have no more

credibility than the New York Post, who presumably has been working on the story longer, and neither do

the one-sided experts they may consult who would tell them that that story is not true. They weren't in

the room. They weren't in a position to verify or not verify emails. But you go back to the Russia-Trump

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