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I'm Goodie and Litchfield, I'm the editor-in-chief of Oired.

And I'm Lauren Good, I'm a senior writer at Wired.

I'm making a new show.

Have a nice future.

I'm more have a nice future, question mark.

It's a show that is honest about how unsettling the future can be.

We're going to be bringing on the people shaping this future.

We're going to ask them about the big challenges we face, about the challenges they're creating,

and how they deal with living in perpetual uncertainty as we all do.

So make sure you follow have a nice future wherever you get your podcasts.

Everybody, it's you know, I'm the birch asked really fun interview show today, really eye opening.

I talked to Lana Swartz, who's a professor of media studies at the University of Virginia.

She's got a new book out called New Money, How Payment Became Social Media.

It's a book about the history and future of money and how it has always been and now has definitely become a communications medium that acts a lot like social media.

So we talked about the history of money, how Western Union used to be a transportation company that's now synonymous

with payments. You talked about Bitcoin. Of course we talked about what Apple and Facebook are doing and my Facebook failed with Libra.

We talked a lot about the underlying systems of money, the networks that move our money around.

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