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Daniel and Kelly’s Extraordinary Universe

How might aliens perceive the Universe?

Daniel and Kelly’s Extraordinary Universe

iHeartPodcasts

Astronomy, Physics, Science, Natural Sciences

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Daniel and Kelly talk about how aliens might experience the Universe and how it might shape their science, a topic from Daniel's new book "Do Aliens Speak Physics?"

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:04.0

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0:06.2

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0:10.2

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0:15.8

I'm Dexter Thomas, host a Kill Switch, a podcast about how living in the future is affecting us right now.

0:21.5

Police, they are trusting the software with this magical ability to lead them to the right suspect.

0:27.2

In this episode, we dive into how cops are using AI and facial recognition,

0:31.5

and sometimes getting it wrong and putting innocent people behind bars.

0:35.1

So if your accuser is this algorithm, but you're not even being told that it was used, let alone given any of the details about how it works history of philosophy is a simple one.

1:02.3

What is it like to be a bat?

1:04.7

It's not a famous question because anyone cares particularly about bats, but because they wonder

1:09.5

how our senses shape our experience.

1:13.0

If you had dramatically different ways of perceiving the universe, would your mind form a very

1:17.3

different mental picture? Do blind animals even have a mental picture? Or is our reliance on vision

1:23.6

showing our bias already in the phrase mental picture. I wonder about bats, but not as

1:29.2

much as I wonder about aliens. What is it like to be an alien? Do they have some version of our

1:36.3

set of senses? Is their experience as alien to us as bats might be? Or is it much more alien?

1:44.3

I'm curious about this, not just because it's a fun thought experiment, but because I wonder

1:48.9

about how it shapes alien science. If they have a very different mental picture or sonogram

1:55.1

or concept of the universe, how does that affect how they study it, what questions they ask, and maybe most

2:02.3

crucially, how they express their answers, their understanding. This is one slice of a larger

2:08.6

question that I dig into in my new book, Do aliens Speak Physics, where I imagine what it

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