If you were given the choice between, I give you a thousand people who will come every Sunday to your church.

And when you're just starting out, that sounds amazing.

You're right.

Again, a thousand people come every Sunday to your church.

They'll listen to you, they'll really like you, they'll support you, they'll good money to your church.

But you'll never have more than a hundred of those people engaged in

mission that's option one or giving you option two and you have to pick one you

can't have both you can't have a hybrid you know or option to right now I will

give you a thousand people engaged in mission but you'll never be able to get

more than a hundred of them in a row at the same time. Which would you choose?

So Brian, you've been going at this quite a while with Microchurch. I know that this almost sounds like,

yeah, well, that's a logical place to begin, but it really is. For people that don't know,

how do you define microchurch? I think it's some kind of search for what could be called, like, the ecclesial minimum

or the minimum viable product, which is the church, you know?

So obviously, if you said, you know, do you need a building to be the church?

You know, probably not. You know, do you need an offering to be the church?

Right. You don't. And so you can, you can kind of peel back the cultural layers of when I think the word church, what am I thinking?

A marquee, a pastor, a group of leaders, whatever.

If you really peel all the back and think, if all of that was gone, but I was left with just

these elements, would that still be the church?

What is it very core minimum?

The irreducible minimum of the church.

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