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Dylan Scott, you report on healthcare at Vox and you live in Maryland,

but we're going to talk about Australia today, why?

Sean, I have been trying to live vicariously through some Australians that I know,

because as of last week, Melbourne, one of the biggest cities in Australia,

has been COVID-free for a month, for four full weeks.

There have been zero active cases of COVID-19 in the state of Victoria,

of which Melbourne is a part.

And I know from my days of geography that Melbourne is relatively close to New Zealand,

which also has done really well, but are Australia and New Zealand just uniquely positioned

because they're so far away from all the COVID catastrophes to just whether the storm better?

I mean, look, it certainly helps Australia and New Zealand even more so

that there are islands, in the case of Australia, really, really big island.

You might even call it a continent.

And they don't have any land borders to speak of.

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