Hey you guys, welcome to the program. This is the Other People Show. I am Brad Listy, and it is good to be with you. I appreciate you tuning in. Hope all is well out there. Hope you're dealing with the holiday chaos as best you can. It's a lot. I'm dealing with it. I feel like most of us are dealing with it in some form. But to that end,

I do have an episode for you that could potentially be of use. My guest is Melissa Broder.

And we're going to be having a craftwork conversation called How Meditation can inform creative writing.

Melissa Broder is an old friend of mine.

She has guessed it on this show a number of times,

but today marks her craftwork debut.

Many of you know her, many of you know her work,

but you might not know that she is a dedicated

meditator, as am I. We have this in common. It is a shared enthusiasm, so it made some sense

for us to talk about it. Melissa Broder is the author most recently of the novel Death Valley,

which was published in October by Scribner.

Her other novels are called Milkfed and the Pisces.

She has also published an essay collection called So Sad Today, as well as five poetry collections, including Superd Doom and Last Sext.

My conversation with Melissa Broder about how meditation can inform creative writing is coming up in just a couple of minutes.

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