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🗓️ 29 September 2024
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Benjamin Lauzier has been building and scaling marketplaces for almost 15 years. He was the VP of product and growth at Thumbtack, where he rebuilt the product team and Thumbtack’s growth levers, re-architected their revenue model, and helped double the company’s growth within three years. Prior to Thumbtack, Ben was at Lyft for six years, where he led the supply side of the product organization to a point where 1% of U.S. workers were driving for Lyft every month. Currently, he advises marketplace teams and founders, teaches a Reforge course on marketplace growth, and has recently launched a health tech company called Nurra, which connects users with care advocates to navigate the health-care system. In our conversation, we cover:
• What defines a marketplace business
• Strategies for growing supply and demand in the early stages
• How to measure liquidity and other marketplace health metrics
• How to evaluate if a marketplace model is right for your idea
• Lessons from Lyft, Thumbtack, and other successful marketplaces
• The differences between product management in the U.S. and Europe
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• Ben’s Reforge course: https://www.reforge.com/courses/marketplace-growth/details
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In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Ben’s background
(02:24) Defining a marketplace
(07:52) Challenges in building a marketplace
(13:28) Methods for growing supply
(15:57) Understanding marketplace liquidity
(21:36) Identifying product-market fit in marketplaces
(24:10) Evaluating marketplace business models
(27:20) Common pitfalls and failures in marketplaces
(36:23) Managed marketplaces and quality control
(42:26) Lyft’s rental car initiative
(46:35) Mentorship and ambassador programs
(51:21) Driver recruitment strategies
(54:12) Lyft vs. Uber: a strategic analysis
(59:24) Cultural differences in tech: Europe vs. U.S.
(01:10:30) Building a health advocacy platform
(01:16:52) Lightning round and final thoughts
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0:00.0 | I think when you're running a marketplace you tend to sit in your every tower a little bit looking at stats and thinking I'm like if only we could get people to do acts it'd be better for everyone right I certainly did that in my career I think that's missing the point that we're humans and I think sometimes we act in ways |
0:17.1 | are non-detaministic or kind of intuitive. |
0:20.2 | But my take is I'm a huge believer in market forces and empowerment. |
0:23.7 | So provide guardrails for what a good experience is in your marketplace, |
0:28.5 | set a clear bar for quality and provide the right coaching and tools for supply to be successful and then take a step back and |
0:36.2 | see where the gaps are and invest more and hands-on tactics just to close those gaps more |
0:42.0 | specifically. |
0:45.0 | Today my guest is Ben Lasey. |
0:49.0 | Ben was VP of product and growth at Thumbtack, |
0:51.0 | where he rebuilt the product team and Thumbtak's |
0:54.0 | Growth Strategy, re-architected the revenue model and helped 3X Thumbtak's growth within three years. |
0:59.8 | Prior to Thumbtak, Ben was at lift for over six years where he was employee number 30 and |
1:04.0 | led product and growth for the driver's side of the business and at one point |
1:07.9 | reached 1% of US workers driving for lift every month. He currently spends this time advising marketplace |
1:14.1 | teams and founders teaching a reforge course on marketplace growth and most |
1:18.2 | recently started a health care company called Nura that connects you to a care |
1:22.1 | advocate to help you navigate the health care system in the U.S. |
1:25.6 | In our conversation, we go many layers deep on the many key elements of building and scaling |
1:30.7 | a marketplace business, including what to focus on pre-product market fit, |
1:34.7 | how to know which side of the marketplace to prioritize, what product market fit looks like, |
1:38.8 | how to track liquidity, what causes most marketplaces to fail and how to avoid that, |
1:43.0 | and a bunch of examples of really clever growth strategies, |
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