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The Brian Lehrer Show

How MAGA Runs the House

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Co-authors of Mad House (Random House, 2025), New York Times reporter Annie Karni and Luke Broadwater, talk about their new book.

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Lera Show on WNYC. Good morning, everyone.

0:14.6

New York Times correspondents, Luke Broadwater and Annie Cony are here.

0:18.7

Their new book begins with this dedication to the leakers,

0:22.9

gossips, and busybodies who populate the halls of Congress. Of course, as many of you were just

0:28.8

hearing on the BBC, no one needed any leakers gossips or busybodies to inadvertently share the

0:34.6

Pentagon's war plans with a journalist. As the AP reported it yesterday,

0:39.2

Trump officials texted war plans to a group chat in a secure app that included a journalist.

0:45.3

It was just a few hours before the actual attack on the Iran-backed Houthi militants in Yemen.

0:51.6

And a statement from the National Security Council says the message thread that was

0:57.2

reported appears to be authentic, and we are reviewing how an inadvertent number was added to the

1:04.2

chain. Others on the chat included Vice President Vance, Defense Secretary HECSeth, Director of National

1:10.0

Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, and others, andeth, Director of National Intelligence, Telsie Gabbard,

1:11.6

and others, and oops, the journalist. Luckily for the mission, the journalists did the responsible

1:17.2

thing and did not go public with the information, so the American pilots involved were not put at

1:23.1

risk. It was Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of the Atlantic. So was President Trump grateful after his team leaked to Goldberg by mistake for the way Goldberg handled it?

1:36.3

I'm not a big fan of the Atlantic.

1:38.2

To me, it's a magazine that's going out of business.

1:40.6

I think it's not much of a magazine.

1:43.2

Yep, he attacked the magazine that didn't do

1:44.9

anything, but was only on the receiving end, any opportunity to attack the press, I guess.

1:50.2

And that brings us back to Congress. Democrats are saying the incident shows this administration

1:55.8

is incompetent, while the big topic within the Republican Party, sorry, well, the big topic within the

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