How Maga fell out of love with fast food
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The Times
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🗓️ 12 May 2026
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Republican voters across the United States are rejecting ultra-processed foods, marking a striking political and cultural shift. But, how did the ‘bread basket of America’ get so ultra-processed in the first place? And is this the moment Big Food faces a reckoning?
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Host: Luke Jones
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| 0:00.0 | From The Times and the Sunday Times, this is The Story. I'm Luke Jones. |
| 0:09.7 | It's early April, in Oklahoma, where the wind comes sweeping down the plane and we're in the state capital, imaginatively called Oklahoma City, |
| 0:19.5 | where a hardline conservative running for governor, |
| 0:22.2 | Charles McCall, is holding a campaign rally. |
| 0:25.3 | Rule health, health here in the metro is a challenge everywhere. |
| 0:31.3 | After McCall steps down from the pickup truck where he was giving his speech, |
| 0:35.1 | he says something that would have been career suicide five years ago. |
| 0:38.7 | We have an unhealthy population here in Oklahoma for various reasons, but mainly because of |
| 0:45.0 | lifestyle choices. I love chicken fried steaks, but I shouldn't eat them probably more than twice a |
| 0:51.3 | year. This is an extremely conservative state. |
| 0:56.3 | President Trump won every county in 2024. |
| 1:00.0 | It's also a place that are staunchly opposed taxes on soda, |
| 1:03.7 | as well as Michelle Obama's campaign against child and obesity. |
| 1:07.0 | But recently, when it comes to healthy eating, something has shifted. |
| 1:11.9 | I think people have got to continue to exercise the freedom, |
| 1:15.5 | but we can do better showing them what good health looks like and how to get there. |
| 1:21.8 | After decades of health consciousness being seen as the preserve of liberal elites, |
| 1:26.9 | Americans from the coast to the |
| 1:28.5 | heartland are turning against ultra-processed food. So what happened? |
| 1:38.3 | The story today, how MAGA fell out of love with big food. |
| 1:59.7 | I am an Oklahoma patriot for the British mind, the distances that you're talking about in Oklahoma are just incredible. |
| 2:07.5 | It's just these miles and miles and miles of cornfields and the weather there's crazy. |
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