Welcome to the WinMakeGive podcast season 2.2, ladies and gentlemen.

Season 2 is 100% committed to one of my favorite subjects, hashtag Winning, hashtag Winning.

Not today, ladies and gentlemen, because Bob Stewart, that's me, Chad Himes,

awkward pauses, ladies and gentlemen. We are not talking about winning today.

We are talking about the ying and the ying, ladies and gentlemen. If you're not

winning, you're losing. We don't want to be losers. But for sometimes, we actually do lose,

and sometimes it's not all that bad of a thing. In fact, sometimes we even learn a

little bit from losing, don't we, Chad? Yes, we do, Ben. Let me give you the dictionary

definition of losing, because I like to be so technical about it here. Keep it going,

Webster. Suffering, resulting in or relating to defeat in a game or a contest. So even in the

dictionary definition, there's this idea that losing is related to suffering. Like 50

shades of gray suffering? That's a different kind of suffering. Not that time. Bob, what are you

going to say? This is like the fifth time you brought up 50 shades of gray in our podcast

history. I was going to say, like, even the dictionary makes us want to think that like losing

is this bad thing, right? We're supposed to suffer through it. Look, we don't like to lose,

right? But we are going to lose, Ben. So it doesn't always have to be a suffering thing,

even though Chad technically, the dictionary would tell us it does. Suffering is the first word

in the definition. Yes. I become quite an expert on losing in my life with one exception. Wait,

it does not fall off, ladies and gentlemen. I have to work really hard at losing to that one.

And you keep finding it. Yeah. Oh, it's like a penny in my pocket. There you go.

Ladies and gentlemen, if we have the right mindset, we can actually take our losses and use it

as fuel for our buyer. Now, Chad, we go through this process. We think we're going to win,

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