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Intelligent Design the Future

How Life Leverages the Laws of Nature to Survive

Intelligent Design the Future

Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture

Science, Life Sciences, Society & Culture, Philosophy, Astronomy

4.31K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2026

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Left to their own devices, the natural result of physics and chemistry is death, not life. So how are we still breathing? On this classic ID The Future from the archive, host Eric Anderson concludes his conversation with physician Howard Glicksman about some of the remarkable engineering challenges that have to be solved to produce and maintain living organisms such as ourselves. Glicksman is co-author with systems engineer Steve Laufmann of the book Your Designed Body, an exploration of the extraordinary system of systems that encompasses thousands of ingenious and interdependent engineering solutions to keep us alive and ticking. In the “just so” stories of the Darwinian narrative, these engineering solutions simply evolved. They emerged and got conserved. Voila! But it takes more than the laws of nature to keep us from dying. Tune in for the conclusion to this conversation!

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0:00.0

ID the Future, a podcast about evolution and intelligent design.

0:10.0

Welcome to ID the Future. I'm your host Eric Anderson, and I'm pleased to be joined again today by Dr. Howard Glickman to continue our discussion about the many challenges life has to overcome in order to continue to survive.

0:23.6

Dr. Glickman practices palliative medicine and is co-author of the recent book, Your Designed Body.

0:29.6

Welcome, Howard.

0:30.6

Thanks, Eric. It's great to be back.

0:32.6

So last time we challenged the notion that the natural result of physics, even as wonderful

0:38.8

and as fine-tuned as physics may be, would lead to living organisms.

0:43.5

In fact, we saw that the natural result of physics and chemistry left to their own devices

0:48.7

is to cause death, not life.

0:50.9

So for those who might just be joining us, Howard, maybe very briefly explain what you

0:54.5

mean by that, and then I'd like to dive into a few more details. Yeah. So what I'm basically saying

1:00.0

is that the idea of Darwinism is basic is that to say that the laws of nature on their own, left

1:05.4

of their own devices can cause life. But with how we know, we know that they actually cause death.

1:11.9

And what we talked about last time was we looked at two laws of nature, diffusion and

1:16.8

osmosis.

1:17.3

We looked at the cell level because we looked at the water and it solutes.

1:21.3

So the cell, the cell has water inside it and it has high potassium, low sodium and high protein, whereas the water outside

1:29.3

the cell has high sodium, low potassium, and low protein. So the fusion and osmosis, when left

1:36.4

to their own devices, they're going to cause the sodium and the water to enter the cell

1:40.6

and potassium to go out. And when that happens, it causes death. And the innovation

1:45.2

that life has to come up with to solve this problem is something called the sodium potassium

1:50.4

pump. And you have about a million of them in each of your cells. And at rest, they use up about

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