In a major decision, the Supreme Court recently overturned the Chevron deference doctrine.

Critics called it the Lord Foldemort of administrative law. So what is this obscurely named doctrine,

really? How did it transform the federal government and what are the

implications of the recent Supreme Court decision? If they're going to hand off

rulemaking to agencies it should be authorized by Congress and I think that will be a pressure on Congress to actually get back to its legislative function.

In this episode, I do a deep dive with constitutional law scholar and Columbia law professor Philip Hamburger.

He's the founder and CEO of the New Civil Liberties Alliance,

which argued the case in front of the Supreme Court.

This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Yanya Kelleck.

Philip Hamburger, such a pleasure to have you on American Thought Leaders.

Thank you.

It's a great pleasure to be here.

Well, we're going to talk about the exciting topic of administrative law today.

I mean, I'm kind of joking. It is actually really exciting, but it doesn't sound it at first glance.

There's a couple of really major Supreme Court cases which have been decided in the

realm of administrative law there's one key one and people have been hearing this term, Chevron deference, and you

hear it and you wonder to yourself, what could that possibly be?

Why don't you give me a picture here?

Right.

I must say that I knew Chevron was on the way out when I was taking a taxi here. Right. I must say that I knew Chevron was on the way out when I was taking a taxi here in New York City and

the taxi driver wanted to talk to me about Chevron and how bad it was.

So that was a clear sign to me that Chevron was on the way out.

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