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The Human Upgrade: Biohacking for Longevity & Performance

How Kindness and Empathy Will Reset and Reshape A Better World: Jamil Zaki, Ph.D., with Dave Asprey : 694

The Human Upgrade: Biohacking for Longevity & Performance

Dave Asprey

Fat, Health & Fitness, Meditation, Biohacking, Lifestyle, Diet, Science, Self-improvement, Fasting, Nutrition, Hacking, Fitness, Brain, Wellness, Education

4.67.3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2020

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Bulletproof Radio, my guest is Jamil Zaki, Ph.D., a professor of psychology at Stanford University and the director of the Stanford Social Neuroscience Lab. Our conversation explores kindness, empathy, and compassion. You’ll find out the surprising ways people carry these traits into their personal lives and their broader social groups and communitites.  

In a stack rank, kindness wins: “So kindness is, obviously, I think the most important for us as a collective,” Jamil says. “We need to cooperate, we need to work together, and that's whether you're in a family or a company or a culture.”

Jamil has presented and written extensively about kindness and empathy, with featured articles in the New York Times, the Washington PostThe New Yorker, and the Atlantic and many more publications and media outlets. He’s the author of the book: “The War for Kindness: Building Empathy in a Fractured World.” (It's available in hardcover now or you can preorder the paperback, set to release, June 2, 2020.)

Using tools from psychology and neuroscience, he gives us a totally new understanding empathy by examining how empathy works and how people can learn to empathize more effectively. 

Empathy has been thought of as a hardwired trait—as in you either have it or you don’t. But Jamil says it’s a learnable skill that can be taught, strengthened and adapted to the modern world. And we need that more than ever in the current calamity of Covid-19. “That sense of common humanity and common vulnerability can really actually ignite massive amounts of empathy,” he says.

Listen on to learn how to bring more empathy and kindness into your life now and how to shape it for the future.

Enjoy the show! 

Catch my Instagram Live with Jamil at https://youtu.be/ENjhT71FUN8. And get more resources at https://blog.daveasprey.com/category/podcasts/.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Boatproof Radio, a state of high performance.

0:06.4

You're listening to Bulletproof Radio with Dave Asprey.

0:09.8

Today's guest on the show is a professor of psychology at Stanford University and director

0:15.5

of the Stanford neuroscience lab.

0:18.9

And he's looked at what empathy and kindness do to humans on all sorts of different levels,

0:25.7

and wrote a fascinating and engaging book called The War for Kindness, which is something

0:32.3

that you want to pay attention to because right now it's too easy when you're feeling

0:35.3

like you're under threat, even if you're not actually under threat, that you snap out

0:39.2

of kindness.

0:40.2

I have fervently believed since the beginning of Bulletproof that when we have enough energy

0:45.4

that we're fundamentally wired to be kind to each other.

0:48.4

It's actually one that's the fourth F word, if you're familiar with my three big F words.

0:52.8

So I wanted to have a professor, Jamil Zaki, on the show.

0:57.8

This is the time when you can hack your response to the environment so that you are naturally

1:02.4

kind and it doesn't take effort that it's just built in and there's experiments, there's

1:06.3

lots of kinds of things I'm going to talk about.

1:08.0

So Jamil, welcome to the show.

1:09.8

It's a pleasure to be here.

1:11.0

You could have studied sociopaths, psychopaths, and abnormal nail-biting behaviors, and you

1:16.6

chose kindness.

1:17.9

What's wrong with you?

1:20.5

If I was studying psychopaths, I'd still be studying kindness because I'd be studying

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