Sometimes you want that big fish, you want that largest entity early on, but it would actually kill your business.

If we'd had Nordstrom do that to us two years earlier, we might not be here.

You might have never heard about Miz and Maine, let alone hearing about it in a different capacity,

because we would not have been able to scale effectively.

And we're not a tech company.

Product companies are incredibly different in their scope

of scaling. So when you think about your business and when you think about what you're trying

to scale and those customers that you're going after, understand the consequences of getting

that bigger customer. Welcome to the Brand Builder podcast presented by Capitalism.com. I'm Max

Kerwrick and I advise physical product brands to find their story.

I'm Ryan Daniel Moran and I invest in physical products brands.

A physical products brand is arguably the most predictable path to a seven-figure business.

And we advise them, build them, buy them, and sell them.

This show goes behind them, tracks their success and hands you the keys to what's working.

Let's dive in.

Welcome to the stage, the founder of Mizan and Maine, Mr. Kevin Lovell.

Thank you for being here.

Glad to be here.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

Beautiful hair, really.

So I'm going to share my experience in building mizzen and Maine and hopefully give you guys some key takeaways.

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