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Katie Herzog is a journalist and creator and co-host of the podcast blocked and reported, which calls itself a podcast that, quote, scours the internet for its craziest, silliest, most sociopathic content, part of an obsessive and ill-conceived attempt to extract kernels of meaning and humanity from a landscape of endless raging dumpster fires, end quote.

So yeah, it's the perfect vehicle for a sharp, smart, funny woman.

But if you ask Katie, when she thinks she was the most fun,

she might say that period of her lifespan some 20 years when she was drinking. Fun maybe for others, self-destructive

for her. In the United States, 30 million adults suffer from alcohol use disorder or AUD. It's the

most common substance use disorder in the country. And Katie tried everything to quit. Nothing worked until she read a magazine

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