Hi everyone, I'm Joanna.

And I'm Jenny.

And this is hyphenated, the podcast about living in the hyphen.

What you guys don't know at home is that this is the second take because I was like not like alive when we did the first intro.

We do have a serious topic today, Jenny,

which is a topic that me and you have talked about a fuck ton.

Sorry to all of you guys listening with your kids at home.

But it is a conversation that I feel like not a lot of people fully understand.

And it's the term Latinx and the controversy around it and everything that it entails.

Like, I don't think there's a more stressful moment for me than when I'm about to post something

online and I have to put the word Latino or Latinx and I'm like, no matter what I write,

someone's going to be pissed.

Ah, man, it's something just like you. I struggle with it so much. I don't know. I don't know how

far back I should start here, but identity is complicated. And I don't know if this is the case

for you in New York, but in Miami, most Latinos refer to themselves as Hispanic.

And there's a lot of Latinos in Miami. It's not just Cubans. It's Guatemalans,

Nicaraguans, Ecuadorians, Puerto Ricans, Venezuelans, Colombians. And most of my friends

identified as Hispanic.

And it wasn't until I moved to Los Angeles when Latino was the thing.

I identify as Latino, Latino, Latino because Hispanic doesn't encompass everyone, especially, you know, like Portuguese, Brazilian.

Right, because Hispanic is Spanish speakers and then Latinos

is anyone in Latin America. It's geographic versus language-based. That's one of the reasons.

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