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How is Trump Changing the Justice Department?

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🗓️ 27 July 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Since Donald Trump's reelection, the Justice Department is undergoing a dramatic transformation. Once guided by norms of independence from the White House, the department now appears closely aligned with the president's personal agenda. NPR's Ayesha Rascoe and Justice Correspondent Ryan Lucas look at how Trump's new team—many of them his former personal attorneys—are reshaping the DOJ's mission, from the handling of specific prosecutions to sweeping changes in the Civil Rights Division. Critics call it the weaponization of justice; supporters say it's a long-overdue course correction.

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0:00.0

I'm Aisha Roscoe, and this is the Sunday story where we go deep on one big topic.

0:07.1

A few months ago, Donald Trump made the short trip down Pennsylvania Avenue from the White

0:11.8

House to the Justice Department.

0:14.4

It's rare for a president to speak at the Justice Department.

0:18.2

In fact, Trump's visit was only the fifth by a president of this century.

0:23.3

Historically, presidents have kept their distance. That's been the norm for decades.

0:28.7

Respected by Republicans and Democrats alike, that the department should be free from political

0:34.6

interference. President Trump has made clear he has a very different idea

0:40.4

about that relationship. And in his speech that day, he lashed out at those who have worked in the

0:46.6

building in recent years. Our predecessors turned this Department of Justice into the Department

0:52.5

of Injustice, but I stand before you today to

0:55.7

declare that those days are over and they are never going to come back.

1:01.1

As for Attorney General Pam Bondi, she said this when introducing the president that same

1:07.0

morning.

1:07.9

We all work for the greatest president in the history of our country. We are so proud

1:13.2

to work at the directive of Donald Trump. This is just one moment of several in the past six

1:21.4

months that signaled what many legal observers see as a major shift in the relationship between the White House

1:29.1

and the Justice Department under this administration.

1:33.3

Reporter Ryan Lucas has been following the turbulence and the changes underway at the agency

1:38.9

and we'll talk about what he's been seeing right after the break.

1:51.7

This is the Sunday story.

1:56.2

I'm Aisha Roscoe, joined today by NPR Justice correspondent Ryan Lucas.

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