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🗓️ 27 July 2025
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0:00.0 | I'm Aisha Roscoe, and this is the Sunday story where we go deep on one big topic. |
0:07.1 | A few months ago, Donald Trump made the short trip down Pennsylvania Avenue from the White |
0:11.8 | House to the Justice Department. |
0:14.4 | It's rare for a president to speak at the Justice Department. |
0:18.2 | In fact, Trump's visit was only the fifth by a president of this century. |
0:23.3 | Historically, presidents have kept their distance. That's been the norm for decades. |
0:28.7 | Respected by Republicans and Democrats alike, that the department should be free from political |
0:34.6 | interference. President Trump has made clear he has a very different idea |
0:40.4 | about that relationship. And in his speech that day, he lashed out at those who have worked in the |
0:46.6 | building in recent years. Our predecessors turned this Department of Justice into the Department |
0:52.5 | of Injustice, but I stand before you today to |
0:55.7 | declare that those days are over and they are never going to come back. |
1:01.1 | As for Attorney General Pam Bondi, she said this when introducing the president that same |
1:07.0 | morning. |
1:07.9 | We all work for the greatest president in the history of our country. We are so proud |
1:13.2 | to work at the directive of Donald Trump. This is just one moment of several in the past six |
1:21.4 | months that signaled what many legal observers see as a major shift in the relationship between the White House |
1:29.1 | and the Justice Department under this administration. |
1:33.3 | Reporter Ryan Lucas has been following the turbulence and the changes underway at the agency |
1:38.9 | and we'll talk about what he's been seeing right after the break. |
1:51.7 | This is the Sunday story. |
1:56.2 | I'm Aisha Roscoe, joined today by NPR Justice correspondent Ryan Lucas. |
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