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InsTech - insurance & innovation with Matthew Grant & Robin Merttens

How insurers can better evaluate cat models in a multi-vendor world (386)

InsTech - insurance & innovation with Matthew Grant & Robin Merttens

InsTech

Entrepreneurship, Business, Investing

4.951 Ratings

🗓️ 21 December 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Claire Souch is joined by Tom Philp, CEO of Maximum Information; James Lay, AVP of Product Management at Verisk; and Stephen Martin, Head of Catastrophe Modelling at Westfield Specialty, for a timely discussion on the future of catastrophe model evaluation, and why it's no longer enough to simply trust what’s in the black box. As new specialist model vendors emerge and market expectations evolve, the panel unpacks a growing demand for transparency, interoperability and smarter ways to adopt models that fit real-world portfolios. At the heart of the conversation is a shared belief: the industry doesn’t just need more models, it needs better ways to evaluate and use them. In this conversation, they explore: Why traditional model validation no longer meets the needs of modern risk teams The shift from 'black box' outputs to meaningful model evaluation that supports business decisions How tools from Maximum Information and Verisk’s Model Exchange reduce the burden on small or lean teams The role of Oasis as a framework for opening up access across multiple model vendors Why standardisation and open data formats are essential for meaningful interoperability The growing role of niche vendors in reshaping perceptions of model transparency How automation is changing the regulatory and investor reporting game Why this is more than a tech upgrade—it's a cultural reset in catastrophe modelling Sign up to the InsTech newsletter for a fresh view on the world every Wednesday morning.

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome or welcome back to the INSTECH podcast.

0:14.2

Zoya here and this week we're sharing a panel discussion moderated by Claire Sauch,

0:18.7

who will also be moderating our upcoming Europe Exposed webinar

0:22.2

later next year in January. So this conversation brings together speakers from maximum information

0:28.8

Verisk and Westfield specialty to tackle a question that's becoming impossible to ignore

0:33.5

in catastrophe modelling. How do you properly evaluate the risk models in the world of rising

0:38.3

complexity, tied to resources and growing scrutiny? The panel digs into transparency, standards,

0:44.7

and the practical realities of model evaluation, especially for smaller, leaner teams. They explore why

0:51.0

access to data and alternative models is still such a barrier, how new tools

0:55.9

are starting to change that, and what openness really means when insurers are making real capital

1:00.7

decisions.

1:01.9

This discussion sets the scene perfectly for our Europe-exposed modelling markets and the next

1:07.3

generation of cat-risk webinar on January 22nd, where Claire will be again moderating a deep dive into how insurers,

1:14.3

modelers and policymakers can navigate an increasingly volatile European risk landscape.

1:20.0

Now let's dive into the conversation.

1:40.8

Did it over the last decade or so, there has been this emergence of a number of new, smaller, but very specialist modeling companies, and there's numerous of them around today.

1:45.8

And I think that's what we're going to dive into more now around accessing the models, validating those models, and deciding which model is most appropriate for your portfolio.

1:54.6

And there's some really exciting breakthroughs that have been happening quite recently over the last 12 or so months

2:03.6

that are going to help with this very traditional problem,

2:07.6

particularly for smaller teams,

2:09.6

cat modelling, smaller cat modelling teams who maybe don't have a lot of resource

2:14.6

for doing this sort of model validation work. We're going to

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