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Intelligence Squared

How Inequality in Healthcare Makes Society Sick, with Layal Liverpool and Chris van Tulleken, Part One

Intelligence Squared

Intelligence Squared

Arts, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 July 2024

⏱️ 47 minutes

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The is the first instalment of a two-part discussion. We’re living longer than ever before but we are also spending more years in poor health and some communities become more sick than others. In June 2024 science journalist Layal Liverpool and medical doctor Chris van Tulleken came to Intelligence Squared to reveal the underlying causes of our growing health crises. Drawing on the themes of their respective books Systemic: How Racism is Making Us Ill, and Ultra-Processed People, they uncover how structural problems and inequalities – from racism in medicine to processing in food – are making us increasingly and needlessly ill. We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to Indeed.com/IS for £100 sponsored credit. This is the first instalment of two-part discussion. If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all three parts immediately and all of our longer form interviews and Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events - Our member-only newsletter The Monthly Read, sent straight to your inbox ... Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series ... Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. ... Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to Intelligence Square where great minds meet. I'm head of programming, Connor Boyle.

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On this episode, Leal Liverpool, the science journalist and author discusses her book, Systemic, How Racism is Making Us Ill.

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Leal's work has appeared in New Scientist, Nature, The Guardian, Wired and More.

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And her new book takes a hard look at how inequality in health systems is making

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society as a whole increasingly unhealthy. Joining her in conversation for

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this episode is the author broadcaster and medical doctor Chris Van Tulliken.

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Chris's most recent book is the bestseller ultra processed people. There's a lot to cover in a

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conversation like this one so we're bringing you

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it in two parts. Head over to intelligence square.com slash membership to sign up and get both

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