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Foreign Policy Live

How Indonesia Sees the World

Foreign Policy Live

Foreign Policy

News Commentary, News, Politics

4.1622 Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

U.S. foreign-policy coverage often focuses on the Middle East, China, or Europe. So, what is the view from what is sometimes called the world’s biggest invisible country? Indonesia, the world’s fourth-most populated country and third-biggest democracy, gets surprisingly little attention. How is Jakarta navigating a changing world? Former Indonesian Vice Foreign Minister Dino Patti Djalal joins FP Live.  Derek Grossman: Why Rubio’s Asia Visit Was a Total Bust Oliver Stuenkel and Margot Treadwell: Will Trump’s Unpredictable Foreign Policy Boost BRICS? Salil Tripathi: How Will Prabowo Lead Indonesia? Christopher S. Chivvis and Beatrix Geaghan-Breiner: How Washington Should Manage Rising Middle Powers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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